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What's your essentials in an organic /non organic soil mix?
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What's your essentials in an organic /non organic soil mix?
So I'm mixing my own soil and am overwhelmed by the information out there on the 'right' way. So from people who have mixed their own soil, what are your must haves and nice to haves? :)
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Re: What's your essentials in an organic /non organic soil mix?
Hi, and thanks for another brilliant question
i think i can break it down a little; peat/coco coir is typical base mixed with a hearty compost as enrichment and nutrients. some times dolomite, bone and blood meals can added to create a richer soil as well as things like volcanic rock dust, seaweeds or just house and garden waste. If your interested in organic soil, take a looking into no till living soils. not the nicest to look at, but incredible results
I really wise i had some solid info for you. Oh Lord Yeah 420 is our soil guru, ill get him to jump in and give you some advise when he is around :D
i think i can break it down a little; peat/coco coir is typical base mixed with a hearty compost as enrichment and nutrients. some times dolomite, bone and blood meals can added to create a richer soil as well as things like volcanic rock dust, seaweeds or just house and garden waste. If your interested in organic soil, take a looking into no till living soils. not the nicest to look at, but incredible results
I really wise i had some solid info for you. Oh Lord Yeah 420 is our soil guru, ill get him to jump in and give you some advise when he is around :D
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Re: What's your essentials in an organic /non organic soil mix?
Awesome thank you!:)
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Re: What's your essentials in an organic /non organic soil mix?
I'll sit down and answer this tonight when I'm not in work and I can let you know what I've found has worked and not worked as well.
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Re: What's your essentials in an organic /non organic soil mix?
Dolomite lime added months in advance helps with calmag issues. (1 tablespoon per 5 litres)
Semen gives good results when potting up, as does mycorrhizal fungi.
Worm tea.
Semen gives good results when potting up, as does mycorrhizal fungi.
Worm tea.
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Re: What's your essentials in an organic /non organic soil mix?
Thank you:) Semen though.... Either its a new product I don't get in my third world country or I need to start stocking up on lube and collection cups for my husband and his mates...The Aspie Toker wrote:Dolomite lime added months in advance helps with calmag issues. (1 tablespoon per 5 litres)
Semen gives good results when potting up, as does mycorrhizal fungi.
Worm tea.
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Re: What's your essentials in an organic /non organic soil mix?
Sounds like a good idea. It contains vitamin C, calcium, chlorine, citric acid, fructose, lactic acid, magnesium, nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, sodium, vitamin B12 and zinc.
Oh, if you're making tea, then you'll need unsulphered blackstrap molasses.
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Re: What's your essentials in an organic /non organic soil mix?
What is good HippyDi?
So first of all there is no 'right' way when it comes to soil and I like that freedom personally.
I started using bought soil (biobizz) and then, over later grows, started to add a few amendments until I've finally started to make my own soil mix.
What works for me (and this may not work for anyone else!) is having the building blocks of nutrients in the soil and then adding any macro nutrients via foliar or waterings.
So right now for veg I use coco, organic mushroom compost, Perlite, calcified kelp and volcanic rock dust. I used to measure but now I can pretty much make up a soil mix (I always mix up a 100 litres as I use 25 litre pots and grow 4 plants at a time and it makes maths easier when you're high) using handfuls of amendments.
I prefer to use foliar sprays of Cal mag to prevent any deficiency. Reason being as you really need to add dolomite lime and let it cook with your soil. Plus I've had calmag issues with a few grows now so I thought if I'm treating it with a calmag foliar spray I may as well just use that and skip the dolomite.
For flower I use the same except I've been swapping out the kelp for bat guano(I pot up just before I filp them to flower). This for the last 2 runs have worked out well.
The most important thing to have is time. The soil needs to cook for at least 4-6 weeks before you want to use it. Trust me, I've ruined a few seedlings now by putting them into 'hot' soil. Also remember you're not feeding the plant but feeding the soil so the plant can take what it needs from the soil.
Compost teas feed that soil microbes and keep it living and the plants happy. I've done a bit of research and listened to a lot of podcasts on compost teas so if that's the route you're going for (I have seen great results from compost teas so recommend fully) I'll give you some tips/advice.
Make sure you hold off on any bottle nutrients until your plants start to look like they could do with a feed. I've carried on feeding plants as normal after potting up in the past (like 6 weeks ago ) only for the roots to grow into some nitrogen heavy soil and then, boom, they're over fed.
Also I use a layer of plain coco (about 1 inch thick) over the top of soil as I was having fungus gnats living in the soil up until then. they don't seem to like the coco and I've had a pest free run so far (I think it was the biobizz soil that gave me fungus gnats tbh)
Here's how I stack my soil, this is my flowering soil for the next run which are still baby seedlings... always planning with soil but it's nice to get outside and do some shovelling.
Just so you know I've only been growing since feb 2018 so I'm no expert and this may be like singing to the choir or a load of shit but it's how I do it and so far... so good.
Anything else, just ask
So first of all there is no 'right' way when it comes to soil and I like that freedom personally.
I started using bought soil (biobizz) and then, over later grows, started to add a few amendments until I've finally started to make my own soil mix.
What works for me (and this may not work for anyone else!) is having the building blocks of nutrients in the soil and then adding any macro nutrients via foliar or waterings.
So right now for veg I use coco, organic mushroom compost, Perlite, calcified kelp and volcanic rock dust. I used to measure but now I can pretty much make up a soil mix (I always mix up a 100 litres as I use 25 litre pots and grow 4 plants at a time and it makes maths easier when you're high) using handfuls of amendments.
I prefer to use foliar sprays of Cal mag to prevent any deficiency. Reason being as you really need to add dolomite lime and let it cook with your soil. Plus I've had calmag issues with a few grows now so I thought if I'm treating it with a calmag foliar spray I may as well just use that and skip the dolomite.
For flower I use the same except I've been swapping out the kelp for bat guano(I pot up just before I filp them to flower). This for the last 2 runs have worked out well.
The most important thing to have is time. The soil needs to cook for at least 4-6 weeks before you want to use it. Trust me, I've ruined a few seedlings now by putting them into 'hot' soil. Also remember you're not feeding the plant but feeding the soil so the plant can take what it needs from the soil.
Compost teas feed that soil microbes and keep it living and the plants happy. I've done a bit of research and listened to a lot of podcasts on compost teas so if that's the route you're going for (I have seen great results from compost teas so recommend fully) I'll give you some tips/advice.
Make sure you hold off on any bottle nutrients until your plants start to look like they could do with a feed. I've carried on feeding plants as normal after potting up in the past (like 6 weeks ago ) only for the roots to grow into some nitrogen heavy soil and then, boom, they're over fed.
Also I use a layer of plain coco (about 1 inch thick) over the top of soil as I was having fungus gnats living in the soil up until then. they don't seem to like the coco and I've had a pest free run so far (I think it was the biobizz soil that gave me fungus gnats tbh)
Here's how I stack my soil, this is my flowering soil for the next run which are still baby seedlings... always planning with soil but it's nice to get outside and do some shovelling.
Just so you know I've only been growing since feb 2018 so I'm no expert and this may be like singing to the choir or a load of shit but it's how I do it and so far... so good.
Anything else, just ask
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Re: What's your essentials in an organic /non organic soil mix?
oh and aspie said Great white myco is awesome.
Semen works great too but you need a pint per litre of soil for it to be noticeable
Semen works great too but you need a pint per litre of soil for it to be noticeable
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Re: What's your essentials in an organic /non organic soil mix?
I've only used it for potting up with, not as a facial :Dohlordyeah_420 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:08 pmoh and aspie said Great white myco is awesome.
Semen works great too but you need a pint per litre of soil for it to be noticeable