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All this bollox sweating on root-rot and do you know im thinking they were both prolly just hungry Wu. FFS what a dopey twat i am at times, maybe it was the bad egg methane typo smell you said you was getting from roots after flushing other plant that threw me into saying root rot, which i would say is pretty standard stuff for rot, but fuck man i just hope it wasn't just hungry and then again i just hope it was just hungry if ya get me. FFS :roll eyes: . Anyhow let us know state of roots on the other when it comes down to see if it was root-rot or not. 8-)
Mate it did stink of a fart from someone who has been constipated for 3 months. As I continued to flush the smell went away. So I'm willing to bet it was a bit of root rot.. but surely she'd be dead by now? The buds are still looking good and alive...albeit slow to no swelling.

I totally get what you saying. At least I have only a few factors to consider...Next grow..

1. Pebble layering/aerating coco
2. Not underfeeding at start. However in my previous grows I was feeding heavy and hit issues, on 3 out of the 4 plants.

If it is underfed how are other people surviving at 1.5ml/l - I don't know. Maybe there's something in my water

BTW I've dropped pk13/14 for now until I can identify the issue. Since I've dropped it, there hasn't been any major gunky Salt build up in the tank, pipes and trays

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Tue Mar 28, 2023 1:09 pm
Mate it did stink of a fart from someone who has been constipated for 3 months. As I continued to flush the smell went away. So I'm willing to bet it was a bit of root rot.. but surely she'd be dead by now? The buds are still looking good and alive...albeit slow to no swelling.
Maybe and maybe not :roll eyes: cus you put in on stuff to combat root rot so yes. Anyhow tis what it is hey Wu, will know for sure when you look .
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I totally get what you saying. At least I have only a few factors to consider...Next grow..

1. Pebble layering/aerating coco
2. Not underfeeding at start. However in my previous grows I was feeding heavy and hit issues, on 3 out of the 4 plants.

If it is underfed how are other people surviving at 1.5ml/l - I don't know. Maybe there's something in my water
Fuck knows i cant do grows on that amount, well ive not tried tbh, least ive prolly gone is 2ml a ltr after stretch is over. But yes before planting seeds out i always soak my pots with a low fert ec around 0.5 so id say thats around 1/2 to 1ml a ltr then take it from their and up it as it grows. Check out Deeks grow he doesn`t faff around and cranks it up really early with feeds.
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BTW I've dropped pk13/14 for now until I can identify the issue. Since I've dropped it, there hasn't been any major gunky Salt build up in the tank, pipes and trays
Really i wouldn`t worry about the salt build up thing its pretty much harmless stuck to side of pots and becomes clumped and unusable by plants so no worry of burning anything. I think ive washed about 1 pot out of white salts stuck to sides in 20 years, for real. You could add a little of the buddy that contains stuff that should help with uptake as well. Just add it on top of EC your setting A&B too so on top of 1.8ec i dont think it will effect it too much, i mean it might take it up around 0.2 give or take if you add 0.5ml a ltr
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Mate it did stink of a fart from someone who has been constipated for 3 months. As I continued to flush the smell went away. So I'm willing to bet it was a bit of root rot.. but surely she'd be dead by now? The buds are still looking good and alive...albeit slow to no swelling.
Maybe and maybe not :roll eyes: cus you put in on stuff to combat root rot so yes. Anyhow tis what it is hey Wu, will know for sure when you look .
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I totally get what you saying. At least I have only a few factors to consider...Next grow..

1. Pebble layering/aerating coco
2. Not underfeeding at start. However in my previous grows I was feeding heavy and hit issues, on 3 out of the 4 plants.

If it is underfed how are other people surviving at 1.5ml/l - I don't know. Maybe there's something in my water
Fuck knows i cant do grows on that amount, well ive not tried tbh, least ive prolly gone is 2ml a ltr after stretch is over. But yes before planting seeds out i always soak my pots with a low fert ec around 0.5 so id say thats around 1/2 to 1ml a ltr then take it from their and up it as it grows. Check out Deeks grow he doesn`t faff around and cranks it up really early with feeds.
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Tue Mar 28, 2023 1:09 pm
BTW I've dropped pk13/14 for now until I can identify the issue. Since I've dropped it, there hasn't been any major gunky Salt build up in the tank, pipes and trays
Really i wouldn`t worry about the salt build up thing its pretty much harmless stuck to side of pots and becomes clumped and unusable by plants so no worry of burning anything. I think ive washed about 1 pot out of white salts stuck to sides in 20 years, for real. You could add a little of the buddy that contains stuff that should help with uptake as well. Just add it on top of EC your setting A&B too so on top of 1.8ec i dont think it will effect it too much, i mean it might take it up around 0.2 give or take if you add 0.5ml a ltr
Cheers bro.

I'll add buddy on the next fill up. Is that how ec is meant to be measured? Then add boosters/pk after ec measurement of base nutes? And finally ph?
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I'll add buddy on the next fill up. Is that how ec is meant to be measured? Then add boosters/pk after ec measurement of base nutes? And finally ph?
Nah your EC is everything that's in your water and that you add to water that can be measured, its total dissolved solids (tds) in your water basically. But certain salts send EC sky high faster than others like N does but P & K dont so much but they still do quite a bit if you add enough but i find just not as much as N. Your EC well it shouldn't hardly climb too much at 1/2ml a litre of Buddy which is mainly P & K. Even calcium carbonate in your hardwater is part of your EC, but its more or less unusable or too big for plant to take up through roots. But discard your water EC though cus its unusable and not part of your fert regime although in reality its still part of EC measurement. EC (electrical conductivity)= TDS

You should only really need to go as high your ever going to be when you flip for 3 to 4 weeks or as soon as you see autos start getting their flowering hairs and stretching like mad. A good fert regime to feed plants, well theirs many but for your pot system, 1.0 - 1.2EC in veg and when you flip around up to around 1.6 -1.8 before dropping back to around 1.2 - 1.4 when stretch is over, that should get you to end without too much of a problem. You see you`ve gotta be careful with that system cus its hard to measure if plants slowing down with feeds and if EC of pot is climbing without removing it from system. That said its very hard to burn a big plant imo.

You`ve always got to have enough base A&B ferts but by sticking to a certain EC and then starting to add others things that effect EC like pk boost your gonna be reducing your base ferts so you've gotta be a little flexible or you may start seeing under ferting typo symptoms cus their might not be enough base ferts in your feed then if your sticking to same EC religiously when adding other stuff that effects it. Not everything we add effects EC.

Take note how and where your plants started turning pale first for future grows cus im pretty sure its not root rot on at least one plant, possibly both and its more like underfeeding now. Tbh i should have spotted what it was and said so, i feel a bit of dickhead really thinking it was root rot, but the stinky bad egg/methane smelling roots prolly threw me a bit and stopped me saying so, feck knows, tis what it is now, soz man. End of shift smash these outa way and on to next Wu

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Hey @2-Scoopsy. You don't have to be sorry mekka. I've only gotten this far coz of you. Your tips have been valuable and I'll take em with me on the next grow...each grow I do I'm learning and tweaking trying to dial everything in. This time its more feeds, pot set up in regards to coco and clayballs.

Mate it stank of bad farts...honestly I think it was root rot. Water wasn't brown as much tho..

Can underfeeding cause root rot ...I.e. the plants starts to do with lack of fertz...then that's a possibility.

But yeah don't be sorry mukka. You're a top man.

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Is it just me or has the rucu cucu responded to the nute change lol

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wutang wrote:
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Can underfeeding cause root rot ...I.e. the plants starts to do with lack of fertz...then that's a possibility.
Im not sure but i doubt it mate.
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Is it just me or has the rucu cucu responded to the nute change lol
I dont know, but imagine how big and even better that plant woulda been looking if it wasn`t so rough. My photo looks similar but i cant get in to get good pictures. But yes way its growing with short node spaces and long buds. Man its right up my street way its buds are forming apart from its a bit heavy on leafage, but im defo gonna grow it again next time, might have said that but yes im doing just LED for Summer months.

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Replenished res..but checked ph and plant situation. They have stopped yellowing..and are going for flower now.

Ph had risen to 6.4 so all good

5.8ph
20l
80ml a and b / 4ml/l but might be slightly less around 3.8?ml

15ml Buddy / 0.75ml/l

And the fekkin ec pen went boom. I'll order another. Can't even calibrate this bitch. Same as last time..it started reading 0.0. And then shows erb. Lol this happened last time and I left it for a month and then it started working again lol. I can't wait so will get another.
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wutang wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:01 pm
Replenished res..but checked ph and plant situation. They have stopped yellowing..and are going for flower now.

Ph had risen to 6.4 so all good

5.8ph
20l
80ml a and b / 4ml/l but might be slightly less around 3.8?ml

15ml Buddy / 0.75ml/l

And the fekkin ec pen went boom. I'll order another. Can't even calibrate this bitch. Same as last time..it started reading 0.0. And then shows erb. Lol this happened last time and I left it for a month and then it started working again lol. I can't wait so will get another.
hi i would bet my last penny the meter is in need of new battery hence leaving it unused and it working for a short while sounds just like mine did/does when the crappy modern lithium rubbish stops working.
good luck with the flowering,peace
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duke wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:22 pm
wutang wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:01 pm
Replenished res..but checked ph and plant situation. They have stopped yellowing..and are going for flower now.

Ph had risen to 6.4 so all good

5.8ph
20l
80ml a and b / 4ml/l but might be slightly less around 3.8?ml

15ml Buddy / 0.75ml/l

And the fekkin ec pen went boom. I'll order another. Can't even calibrate this bitch. Same as last time..it started reading 0.0. And then shows erb. Lol this happened last time and I left it for a month and then it started working again lol. I can't wait so will get another.
hi i would bet my last penny the meter is in need of new battery hence leaving it unused and it working for a short while sounds just like mine did/does when the crappy modern lithium rubbish stops working.
good luck with the flowering,peace
I'll try a fr3sh set of batteries bro. But these essentials pen usually flash up when battery is low..but good shout. Thanks for the well wishes bro. Fingers crossed.
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