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[sybarite]

So I could have uva built into the light saving the need for the separate Uva panels, then I can just get the deep red and far red then hang them separately

I would have thought @Invisible Sun would incorporate far red and deep red into lights as well mukka. Not sure why you would want uva tbh, i always thought it was uvb needed for extra potency but im not that clued up on it all

As I understand it, both uva and uvb work to increase potency and terpenes, but uvb is much more potent and harmful, so can only be on for a few hours per day, whereas uva can be left on constantly. In my setup I prefer to have the reds and blues built-in and have the uva separate, as I think the reds and blues are more important for general growth.

[sybarite]

So I could have uva built into the light saving the need for the separate Uva panels, then I can just get the deep red and far red then hang them separately

I would have thought @Invisible Sun would incorporate far red and deep red into lights as well mukka. Not sure why you would want uva tbh, i always thought it was uvb needed for extra potency but im not that clued up on it all

UVA is for root production mainly, its great at seedling stage , in later stages increased root production leads to increased nutrient uptake and t terpenes, it also has the benefit of mold and insect hindering,

[Vador]

So I could have uva built into the light saving the need for the separate Uva panels, then I can just get the deep red and far red then hang them separately

I would have thought @Invisible Sun would incorporate far red and deep red into lights as well mukka. Not sure why you would want uva tbh, i always thought it was uvb needed for extra potency but im not that clued up on it all

As I understand it, both uva and uvb work to increase potency and terpenes, but uvb is much more potent and harmful, so can only be on for a few hours per day, whereas uva can be left on constantly. In my setup I prefer to have the reds and blues built-in and have the uva separate, as I think the reds and blues are more important for general growth.

This is all interesting, food for thought.
The panel for my flower room will mainly be used for flowering but I’ll probably supplement it with a royal blue while scrog’ing.
Apart from that I just want a panel that’s going to be perfect for flowering. I don’t really know what the best combination is but have a vague understanding of what each of the supplementary panels do.

Things like seeds/ clones/ veg is taken care of in a separate tent so will have there own panels for them.
At the moment running 2 x 4ft t5’s and they are actually quite expensive to run so looking forward to replacing them with dimmable led panels.

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As I understand it, both uva and uvb work to increase potency and terpenes

I`m really not sure or convinced uva does help with resin production, it might help with rootzone and uptake, i just don`t know about that, I've never really looked. But uva is wrong wavelength for any real extra noticeable potency unlike uvb which i read is an ideal wavelength of 280-285nm for extra resin production. I mean in theory running or adding any blue light last few weeks of bloom would work to increase resin production ie: summink like changing a red hps bulb out to a mh bulb should help increase resin production tis just is it gonna be a noticeable difference like it would be if your running a uvb at correct wavelength, i think not personally speaking.

I`m pretty sure uvb can`t be produced at wavelerngth i mentioned (285nm) atmo in LED`s, then again I've not looked for a long time so shit might have moved on a wee bit since, but generally tis why most growers use cfl, t-5 or t-8 if they`re wanting any noticeable extra resin production for a few or more hours daily last 2 or 3 weeks of a grow.

[2-Scoops]

So I could have uva built into the light saving the need for the separate Uva panels, then I can just get the deep red and far red then hang them separately

I would have thought @Invisible Sun would incorporate far red and deep red into lights as well mukka. Not sure why you would want uva tbh, i always thought it was uvb needed for extra potency but im not that clued up on it all

UVA is for root production mainly, its great at seedling stage , in later stages increased root production leads to increased nutrient uptake and t terpenes, it also has the benefit of mold and insect hindering,

Yes what i was always told was uvc for killing spores and shit like that, uvb for extra potency and uva does squat. Now i was told this a very long time ago pre led age and longer, so i do understand things have moved on lots nowadays what with testing this that and other. But cheers nice one.

[sybarite]

As I understand it, both uva and uvb work to increase potency and terpenes

I`m really not sure or convinced uva does help with resin production, it might help with rootzone and uptake, i just don`t know about that, I've never really looked. But uva is wrong wavelength for any real extra noticeable potency unlike uvb which i read is an ideal wavelength of 280-285nm for extra resin production. I mean in theory running or adding any blue light last few weeks of bloom would work to increase resin production ie: summink like changing a red hps bulb out to a mh bulb should help increase resin production tis just is it gonna be a noticeable difference like it would be if your running a uvb at correct wavelength, i think not personally speaking.

I`m pretty sure uvb can`t be produced at wavelerngth i mentioned (285nm) atmo in LED`s, then again I've not looked for a long time so shit might have moved on a wee bit since, but generally tis why most growers use cfl, t-5 or t-8 if they`re wanting any noticeable extra resin production for a few or more hours daily last 2 or 3 weeks of a grow.

Yes, I read that too and posted about it here: viewtopic.php?f=28&t=17328

I thought Bruce Bugbee in his video was saying uva and uvb had an effect on resin production, but uvb much more so, although it's highly likely I was stoned out of my tiny mind and misunderstood

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Yes, I read that too and posted about it here: viewtopic.php?f=28&t=17328

I thought Bruce Bugbee in his video was saying uva and uvb had an effect on resin production, but uvb much more so, although it's highly likely I was stoned out of my tiny mind and misunderstood

I didn`t watch video but i did read the thread. I will watch the video after ive had a spruce up in a bit though now, nice one.

As said this is all old stuff in my head now and summink ive not really looked into for a long time now and as said any blue light used later in bloom should also help with added resin production in theory.

Basically i think its all about stressing plant out to produce extra resin and uvb stresses it cock on for maxing that out, but im not 100% sure on that last bit but it sounds about right in my head .

[seymore_budz]

Interesting read. Their research suggests UVA doesn't provide much benefits within the flowering period.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10 ... 25078/full

[Ancient.Soul.Grown]

I would have thought @Invisible Sun would incorporate far red and deep red into lights as well mukka. Not sure why you would want uva tbh, i always thought it was uvb needed for extra potency but im not that clued up on it all

UVA is for root production mainly, its great at seedling stage , in later stages increased root production leads to increased nutrient uptake and t terpenes, it also has the benefit of mold and insect hindering,

Yes what i was always told was uvc for killing spores and shit like that, uvb for extra potency and uva does squat. Now i was told this a very long time ago pre led age and longer, so i do understand things have moved on lots nowadays what with testing this that and other. But cheers nice one.

Our UVA slightly hinders mold and insects. Its not a cure/solution. The reason being is that in our UVA fixtures we use 3 nano meter wave lengths 405nm, 395nm and 385nm, the 385 nm is "crossing" the UVA / UVB threshold so it has a limited effect on mold and insects.also again with terpenes. UVA is in daylight all day long. Plants get an abundant source of it throughout the day.

Must be clear though, UVA is not for increasing resin , it helps with root production, nutrient uptake which leads to improved , flavour, fragrances and potential yield if the roots are improved.

[Vador]

I see, so I was wanting it for the wrong reasons then really, I was thinking uva was like a boost you use near the end but it actually improves plant health through a healthier root system instead.
Still good to have in there I guess