How Economical Is Coco Coir?

[Guest]

I wouldn't like to say whether one was worse than the other.

Really ? Man i would hands down say raiding peat bogs is by far a lot worse many times over for the World than making a sack or block of coco is. Not that it makes either right, but for sure we need to stop raiding peat bogs as of yesterday.

Yes I do. I intend my soil to last a life time, you never know may even leave it in my will

[GMO]

@2-Scoops peat has a high CEC than coco on average

@everyone else there are moss consortiums being made available for commercial use and for regrowing bogs that have been farms. tho they are still very slow they are about 8 times faster than sphagnum alone. a year or so back i was talking to a company who sold them for commercial operators but not for domestic use just yet... but you can get a live sample from a pet shop and grow your own from it

[2-Scoops]

@2-Scoops peat has a high CEC than coco on average

Surprised me did that one, mind you i shoulda looked and checked firstly myself, me and my lazy arse. Thanx.

[KD]

@2-Scoops peat has a high CEC than coco on average

Surprised me did that one, mind you i shoulda looked and checked firstly myself, me and my lazy arse. Thanx.

Even so... The question of which is more economical still puts coco as the real winner here. It is after all recycled crap from the production of textiles that we use, and if it is indeed cleaned with fresh water that is also then reused, without the use of any chemicals, its far better for the environment. The only downside I could argue is using synthetic salts as fertiliser but organic coco is amazing! I'd rather pay €12 for a couple of bricks of coco in my pots, purely because I know I get far better results than when I use soil with the organic food I use. Saying that though... I'm moving to synthetic feeds because I want more control over what the plants get at certain stages, which you can't do in soil, and I really don't think 1 more person using synthetic salts is going to make that much difference to the damage already done in the world.

[Guest]

and I really don't think 1 more person using synthetic salts is going to make that much difference to the damage already done in the world.

I think that's half the issue, if everyone thought that we would all be doing it anyway.

I can still see the future being more sustainable and economical with soil and peat alternatives.

Science and technology will only develop further and further. So some day there will be a way of making both as equally economic and sustainable......

Not everyone re uses their coco though. Neither there run off so you have to trust masses of users to do the right thing.

I heard that people using run off in gardens and down drains leaches through water tables below us and pollutes the sea massively.

Always be a funny subject this will and certainly controversial. This is how we can make things even better and improve though, debate, share ideas.

[KD]

and I really don't think 1 more person using synthetic salts is going to make that much difference to the damage already done in the world.

I think that's half the issue, if everyone thought that we would all be doing it anyway.

I can still see the future being more sustainable and economical with soil and peat alternatives.

Science and technology will only develop further and further. So some day there will be a way of making both as equally economic and sustainable......

Not everyone re uses their coco though. Neither there run off so you have to trust masses of users to do the right thing.

I heard that people using run off in gardens and down drains leaches through water tables below us and pollutes the sea massively.

Always be a funny subject this will and certainly controversial. This is how we can make things even better and improve though, debate, share ideas.

Yeah I agree mate. If everybody decided... I'm gonna do good by mother nature... I reckon the world would be a lot better but that's never gonna happen. I'm actually contemplating building a solar still to recycle my runoff and any waste water. You can get the purest of pure water out of them if done correctly but then what do I do with the leftover salts?

I don't think it'll ever be good for the environment to remove peat from the earth though. Then take into account the CO² emissions from transporting and producing ammendments that soil growers top dress with and coco once again comes out as the more economically friendly option. Even compost releases CO² into the atmosphere.

[Guest]

and I really don't think 1 more person using synthetic salts is going to make that much difference to the damage already done in the world.

I think that's half the issue, if everyone thought that we would all be doing it anyway.

I can still see the future being more sustainable and economical with soil and peat alternatives.

Science and technology will only develop further and further. So some day there will be a way of making both as equally economic and sustainable......

Not everyone re uses their coco though. Neither there run off so you have to trust masses of users to do the right thing.

I heard that people using run off in gardens and down drains leaches through water tables below us and pollutes the sea massively.

Always be a funny subject this will and certainly controversial. This is how we can make things even better and improve though, debate, share ideas.

Yeah I agree mate. If everybody decided... I'm gonna do good by mother nature... I reckon the world would be a lot better but that's never gonna happen. I'm actually contemplating building a solar still to recycle my runoff and any waste water. You can get the purest of pure water out of them if done correctly but then what do I do with the leftover salts?

I don't think it'll ever be good for the environment to remove peat from the earth though. Then take into account the CO² emissions from transporting and producing ammendments that soil growers top dress with and coco once again comes out as the more economically friendly option. Even compost releases CO² into the atmosphere.

So does my arse. Plenty of CO2 out of that

[KD]

I think that's half the issue, if everyone thought that we would all be doing it anyway.

I can still see the future being more sustainable and economical with soil and peat alternatives.

Science and technology will only develop further and further. So some day there will be a way of making both as equally economic and sustainable......

Not everyone re uses their coco though. Neither there run off so you have to trust masses of users to do the right thing.

I heard that people using run off in gardens and down drains leaches through water tables below us and pollutes the sea massively.

Always be a funny subject this will and certainly controversial. This is how we can make things even better and improve though, debate, share ideas.

Yeah I agree mate. If everybody decided... I'm gonna do good by mother nature... I reckon the world would be a lot better but that's never gonna happen. I'm actually contemplating building a solar still to recycle my runoff and any waste water. You can get the purest of pure water out of them if done correctly but then what do I do with the leftover salts?

I don't think it'll ever be good for the environment to remove peat from the earth though. Then take into account the CO² emissions from transporting and producing ammendments that soil growers top dress with and coco once again comes out as the more economically friendly option. Even compost releases CO² into the atmosphere.

So does my arse. Plenty of CO2 out of that

Should see a doctor mate. You're not supposed to release CO² from the rear

[Guest]

Yeah I agree mate. If everybody decided... I'm gonna do good by mother nature... I reckon the world would be a lot better but that's never gonna happen. I'm actually contemplating building a solar still to recycle my runoff and any waste water. You can get the purest of pure water out of them if done correctly but then what do I do with the leftover salts?

I don't think it'll ever be good for the environment to remove peat from the earth though. Then take into account the CO² emissions from transporting and producing ammendments that soil growers top dress with and coco once again comes out as the more economically friendly option. Even compost releases CO² into the atmosphere.

So does my arse. Plenty of CO2 out of that

Should see a doctor mate. You're not supposed to release CO² from the rear

Sorry I must be talking out my arse again

Methane is more damaging I think Although I'm sure it's not just breathing that would contain co2