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Re: beginning of mould on soil im sure after 5 months..
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i remember one time growing with sim probs to you over doing the nutes we all do it ya not alone mate
I woke up one morning do my normal plant check and found a white mushroom growing in the pot with me weed....LOL
Not magic tho................shame...............LOL
Dont think mycelium is bad tho its natures way of breaking shit down
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Mycorrhizae and Plants Make Great Allies
Post by Wizard » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:26 pm
so i was reading this article today because it pertains to the soil that I am going to be using for my next grow .. soil im using is Pro-Mix Hp https://www.pthorticulture.com/en/produ ... corrhizae/.
though this would be a good over all read for any soil grower.
Mycorrhizae and Plants Make Great Allies
Tuesday, September 12, 2017 | Ed Bloodnick
In undisturbed soils, mycorrhizal fungi are a major component of the soil's natural microflora, but their presence is not guaranteed in all soils when transplanting new plants in a garden bed or in newly landscaped area. Sometimes, nature needs a little help.
Mycorrhizal fungi live in symbiosis with the roots of a large variety of plants, including trees, shrubs, annuals and perennials. These microscopic fungi form a symbiotic association with the plant's root system in which it forms a network of extremely fine filaments, called mycelium, uniting the two partners appears (Figure 1). This union, called "mycorrhiza" ("myco" for fungus and "rhiza" for root), allows both partners to form a mutual exchange network at the root zone level to support the plant in a cultural environment that can sometimes be hostile.
microscopic fungi
"Figure 1. Picture of roots (larger structures) with mycorrhizal network (smaller threads). Mycorrhizal fungi are microscopic so this picture is enlarged 40 times with a microscope. Source: Premier Tech Horticulture"
In this symbiotic relationship, the mycorrhizal network draws nutrients from the soil for plant roots, which would sometimes be inaccessible without the help of this invaluable ally. Mycelium bring the plant the nutrients it needs to develop properly, elements such as phosphorus copper and zinc, which aren't very mobile in the soil. They also draw water from within the soil's micropores, which would otherwise be inaccessible by the root. Thus, roots colonized by mycorrhizae enables the plant to be better protected and to resist the stress caused by transplanting, drought and heat, while maintaining an optimal growth rate.
Mycorrhizal fungi also receive benefit from symbiosis with the plant. Due to the plants ability to photosynthesize, the plant synthesizes carbon-based substances (sugars), which feeds the fungi. You may say there is an exchange of services between the fungus and the plant.
Soils disturbed by urbanization
Urban landscaping in recent years, is challenged by climate change and urban heat islands that are generated with the use of concrete surfaces in city environments. This means that the plants selected for these locations must be reviewed periodically to ensure they can survive in these landscaped areas with extreme temperatures, drought, human activity, etc. The soil must also be considered when it comes to plant survival, as it plays a crucial part in the retention of water and health of plants, especially for trees and shrubs, whose life cycle is longer than annuals. The organic matter, microflora and other organisms, such as earthworms, are essential factors in soil fertility and play a major role in the plant establishment success.
A good microbiological diversity in the soil helps maintain the soil's structure, which aids in the retention of water and nutrients. For example, it has been recently shown that phosphorus can be made available for plants from apatite (a group of phosphate minerals) through the interaction between mycorrhizal fungi and specific bacteria (Québec Science, January-February 2016).
Unfortunately, urbanization and human activity disturb the soil and greatly reduce the quantity of mycorrhizal propagules it contains. Soil amendments such as peat moss, compost and black earth do not contain the types of mycorrhizae required by most ornamental and vegetable plant species, so they must be added to the soil to help plants adjust to harsh climate and soil environment.
Mycorrhizal inoculants to help save plants
Mycorrhizal fungi inoculants have been available for various uses for about fifteen years. Several formulations are offered, either in soilless media (PRO-MIX MYCORRHIZAE products) for the production of horticultural crops or in more concentrated formulations that can be applied directly in fields at planting, or mixed into growing media used and in nurseries or incorporated into the soil when installing landscapes.
Although the importance of mycorrhizae has been amply demonstrated for decades, most of the plants sold by nurseries or greenhouse growers are not pre-inoculated with mycorrhizae, unless the growing medium contains mycorrhizae. Many growers think that mycorrhizae develop naturally in the soil and mistakenly believe that adding such microorganisms will not have any impact on production or recovery after transplanting. The fact that the benefits of mycorrhizal fungi are minor at the beginning of a production cycle could lead growers to believe that they provide little to no benefit, which is not true.
While the impact of a fertilizer on plant growth is immediate, the effect of a mycorrhizal inoculant will often be evident later, when the plant experiences stress from improper fertility, heat, lack of water, etc. Plants grown in a greenhouse or nursery are watered and fertilized in accordance with their needs. They do often do not see stress, in which mycorrhizae can benefit them. It is only when they leave the greenhouse that they are likely to experience stresses that can be detrimental to their development.
i remember one time growing with sim probs to you over doing the nutes we all do it ya not alone mate
I woke up one morning do my normal plant check and found a white mushroom growing in the pot with me weed....LOL
Not magic tho................shame...............LOL
Dont think mycelium is bad tho its natures way of breaking shit down
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Mycorrhizae and Plants Make Great Allies
Post by Wizard » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:26 pm
so i was reading this article today because it pertains to the soil that I am going to be using for my next grow .. soil im using is Pro-Mix Hp https://www.pthorticulture.com/en/produ ... corrhizae/.
though this would be a good over all read for any soil grower.
Mycorrhizae and Plants Make Great Allies
Tuesday, September 12, 2017 | Ed Bloodnick
In undisturbed soils, mycorrhizal fungi are a major component of the soil's natural microflora, but their presence is not guaranteed in all soils when transplanting new plants in a garden bed or in newly landscaped area. Sometimes, nature needs a little help.
Mycorrhizal fungi live in symbiosis with the roots of a large variety of plants, including trees, shrubs, annuals and perennials. These microscopic fungi form a symbiotic association with the plant's root system in which it forms a network of extremely fine filaments, called mycelium, uniting the two partners appears (Figure 1). This union, called "mycorrhiza" ("myco" for fungus and "rhiza" for root), allows both partners to form a mutual exchange network at the root zone level to support the plant in a cultural environment that can sometimes be hostile.
microscopic fungi
"Figure 1. Picture of roots (larger structures) with mycorrhizal network (smaller threads). Mycorrhizal fungi are microscopic so this picture is enlarged 40 times with a microscope. Source: Premier Tech Horticulture"
In this symbiotic relationship, the mycorrhizal network draws nutrients from the soil for plant roots, which would sometimes be inaccessible without the help of this invaluable ally. Mycelium bring the plant the nutrients it needs to develop properly, elements such as phosphorus copper and zinc, which aren't very mobile in the soil. They also draw water from within the soil's micropores, which would otherwise be inaccessible by the root. Thus, roots colonized by mycorrhizae enables the plant to be better protected and to resist the stress caused by transplanting, drought and heat, while maintaining an optimal growth rate.
Mycorrhizal fungi also receive benefit from symbiosis with the plant. Due to the plants ability to photosynthesize, the plant synthesizes carbon-based substances (sugars), which feeds the fungi. You may say there is an exchange of services between the fungus and the plant.
Soils disturbed by urbanization
Urban landscaping in recent years, is challenged by climate change and urban heat islands that are generated with the use of concrete surfaces in city environments. This means that the plants selected for these locations must be reviewed periodically to ensure they can survive in these landscaped areas with extreme temperatures, drought, human activity, etc. The soil must also be considered when it comes to plant survival, as it plays a crucial part in the retention of water and health of plants, especially for trees and shrubs, whose life cycle is longer than annuals. The organic matter, microflora and other organisms, such as earthworms, are essential factors in soil fertility and play a major role in the plant establishment success.
A good microbiological diversity in the soil helps maintain the soil's structure, which aids in the retention of water and nutrients. For example, it has been recently shown that phosphorus can be made available for plants from apatite (a group of phosphate minerals) through the interaction between mycorrhizal fungi and specific bacteria (Québec Science, January-February 2016).
Unfortunately, urbanization and human activity disturb the soil and greatly reduce the quantity of mycorrhizal propagules it contains. Soil amendments such as peat moss, compost and black earth do not contain the types of mycorrhizae required by most ornamental and vegetable plant species, so they must be added to the soil to help plants adjust to harsh climate and soil environment.
Mycorrhizal inoculants to help save plants
Mycorrhizal fungi inoculants have been available for various uses for about fifteen years. Several formulations are offered, either in soilless media (PRO-MIX MYCORRHIZAE products) for the production of horticultural crops or in more concentrated formulations that can be applied directly in fields at planting, or mixed into growing media used and in nurseries or incorporated into the soil when installing landscapes.
Although the importance of mycorrhizae has been amply demonstrated for decades, most of the plants sold by nurseries or greenhouse growers are not pre-inoculated with mycorrhizae, unless the growing medium contains mycorrhizae. Many growers think that mycorrhizae develop naturally in the soil and mistakenly believe that adding such microorganisms will not have any impact on production or recovery after transplanting. The fact that the benefits of mycorrhizal fungi are minor at the beginning of a production cycle could lead growers to believe that they provide little to no benefit, which is not true.
While the impact of a fertilizer on plant growth is immediate, the effect of a mycorrhizal inoculant will often be evident later, when the plant experiences stress from improper fertility, heat, lack of water, etc. Plants grown in a greenhouse or nursery are watered and fertilized in accordance with their needs. They do often do not see stress, in which mycorrhizae can benefit them. It is only when they leave the greenhouse that they are likely to experience stresses that can be detrimental to their development.
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Re: beginning of mould on soil im sure after 5 months..
I'm in UK bro no mentors available just police informers and council grasses lol, cheers mate I appreciate it, I got through some amount of info before i got started and I only grew one as a trial, but ive been obsessed with cannabis since i was 13 my gran used to sell hash while i was in school and id come home and serve it the door smoking solid listening to pink floyd n bob marley chillin w my granny lol, when people were watching funny shit on youtube i was watching jorge cervantes indoor grow guide out of pure interest haha, if things had went my way id have grown a lot sooner so the info didnt get stale in my head but life doesnt always go the way you want it to , i've heard the best here is canna but they're a bit expensive, next grow is going to be hydro I think, was looking at GeneralHydro nutrients and it seems they're now called terra aquatic, here is my nutrients, just noticed a part on the bottles ingredients that has rough Spanish translations of mercury and arsenic? Don't like sound of that how would that affect overall end product? Here's pics of nutes
Mr nice aye man the logic u put to it working in ur head is tempting although false lol, it takes making the mistake to learn from it I'm finding tho that or extensive reading in areas that might not be evident at first haha, that must be a good sign if mushrooms formed from your soil, u using organics yh? defos not bad mate I'm hoping the same thing happens here, seems appealing and not too difficult to do
Mr nice aye man the logic u put to it working in ur head is tempting although false lol, it takes making the mistake to learn from it I'm finding tho that or extensive reading in areas that might not be evident at first haha, that must be a good sign if mushrooms formed from your soil, u using organics yh? defos not bad mate I'm hoping the same thing happens here, seems appealing and not too difficult to do
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Re: beginning of mould on soil im sure after 5 months..
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No worries bro happy growing
No worries bro happy growing
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Re: beginning of mould on soil im sure after 5 months..
Don't know why I got mixed up woth someone else lol.potentcheesydick wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:53 pmI'm in UK bro no mentors available just police informers and council grasses lol, cheers mate I appreciate it, I got through some amount of info before i got started and I only grew one as a trial, but ive been obsessed with cannabis since i was 13 my gran used to sell hash while i was in school and id come home and serve it the door smoking solid listening to pink floyd n bob marley chillin w my granny lol, when people were watching funny shit on youtube i was watching jorge cervantes indoor grow guide out of pure interest haha, if things had went my way id have grown a lot sooner so the info didnt get stale in my head but life doesnt always go the way you want it to , i've heard the best here is canna but they're a bit expensive, next grow is going to be hydro I think, was looking at GeneralHydro nutrients and it seems they're now called terra aquatic, here is my nutrients, just noticed a part on the bottles ingredients that has rough Spanish translations of mercury and arsenic? Don't like sound of that how would that affect overall end product? Here's pics of nutes
Mr nice aye man the logic u put to it working in ur head is tempting although false lol, it takes making the mistake to learn from it I'm finding tho that or extensive reading in areas that might not be evident at first haha, that must be a good sign if mushrooms formed from your soil, u using organics yh? defos not bad mate I'm hoping the same thing happens here, seems appealing and not too difficult to do
There are loads of people here online that would mentor you. I'm going to ask someone to help me with a SCROG set up on my next grow I think.
I think this is why I've heard bad things about those feeding bottles. Mercury is certainly not to be taken lightly! Lol Tgis is why I don't trust anything from a bottle.
.....and I've had mushrooms before, one in my blue dream pot, I had the most prolific growth from that plant at that time too.
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People here are noticeably more friendly I should have gathered u meant that lol, how would a mentor work would you give them your set up and tell them what you want to do and they guide you basically? For example i want to mainline possibly hydro might just go soil as its going to cost £120 for hps and another £120 for buckets pumps and netpots but I already have the soil and 5 Airpots, 3x25L and 2 40L, I don't have smaller pots to transplant are they really necessary? it says not to breathe in the bottle pretty sure that's how you get mercury poisoning from the air also lol.. I hate chemicals like that by nature nevermind as an additive in a product.. New nutes also I think for health and safety purposes
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Would love to grow blue dream hear its a good mood stabilizer, how would you go about asking someone i don't mean to be fussy but id much rather someone who has years of knowledge u and experience their belt rather than someone who get good yields and bud as i like to know the why is that on just about everything i ask lol
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Re: beginning of mould on soil im sure after 5 months..
Follow the link Marcus put up @potentcheesydick
You'll find someone with a few years under there belt lol.
I was going to use those nutritients myself once until someone said something on a podcast a while ago.
I'm all for no chemicals and why I do what I do. No spray etc.... I check everything I buy. I even tested my local water for heavy metals. Did a quick test on some of my medium too. I didn't get great yields at all 1st 2 runs but you soon learn and there's always help if you shout out.
You'll find someone with a few years under there belt lol.
I was going to use those nutritients myself once until someone said something on a podcast a while ago.
I'm all for no chemicals and why I do what I do. No spray etc.... I check everything I buy. I even tested my local water for heavy metals. Did a quick test on some of my medium too. I didn't get great yields at all 1st 2 runs but you soon learn and there's always help if you shout out.
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Re: beginning of mould on soil im sure after 5 months..
i myself scrape the top half inch of the soil / coco at least twice a week,just lightly scrape it with a fork / fingers keeping it loose this way it will prevent mold / algae also make sure your pulling warm dry air into your groom,cold damp air is a no no.
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Cheer much amigos ✌ , will have a look now, would you recommend any bottled organic for hydro Rik? And is 18° too cold as it hits this at night I've started closing the window and blasting the heat for an hour but is 18 still considered cold air?
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