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Yo, that's not lockout, that's hunger. They begging for food :lol: I've not read through the thread but I would say your soil ain't living atm and they're not getting the required nutrients. If they were locked out they would look deep green and have burnt tips. Turning the lights up is like putting your foot on the gas when the car is running on empty.

You may have to bite the bullet and give them some bottled food that is directly available. Even then you may not see an improvement now as they're quite a way into the flowering cycle.

Don't get disheartened, it's a learning process. Every grower out there has been through the same types of issues before they had success.
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Re: Living Soil Organic Grow 75L

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MafooFarms wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:52 pm
What does the soil smell like? Do you think youve upset the microbe balance in there?

For some reason my gut is sayin flush the hell out of it with some 6.5 pH water and turn the light down and wait a week.

As you said she may have just turned the corner in which case its totally your call.

Either way I would be cautious about transplanting another plant you have invested in without a good flush and a microbe recharge

Again, just my two cents
I'm not sure flushing living soil is a good idea? I'm no expert though. :idn:
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sybarite wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:54 pm
MafooFarms wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:52 pm
What does the soil smell like? Do you think youve upset the microbe balance in there?

For some reason my gut is sayin flush the hell out of it with some 6.5 pH water and turn the light down and wait a week.

As you said she may have just turned the corner in which case its totally your call.

Either way I would be cautious about transplanting another plant you have invested in without a good flush and a microbe recharge

Again, just my two cents
I'm not sure flushing living soil is a good idea? I'm no expert though. :idn:
I agree, flushing will make them worse. Personally, I'd grab a bottle of Plagron Alga Bloom and get some food in there.
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seymore_budz wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:57 pm
sybarite wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:54 pm
MafooFarms wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:52 pm
What does the soil smell like? Do you think youve upset the microbe balance in there?

For some reason my gut is sayin flush the hell out of it with some 6.5 pH water and turn the light down and wait a week.

As you said she may have just turned the corner in which case its totally your call.

Either way I would be cautious about transplanting another plant you have invested in without a good flush and a microbe recharge

Again, just my two cents
I'm not sure flushing living soil is a good idea? I'm no expert though. :idn:
I agree, flushing will make them worse. Personally, I'd grab a bottle of Plagron Alga Bloom and get some food in there.
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Point taken. I only thought to flush based on all the stuff that was getting added to try and fix it. As an outsider its hard to know if too much was added and now the soil is too hot and microbes been shocked as well.

Thanks for the lesson on living soil
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MafooFarms wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:52 pm
What does the soil smell like? Do you think youve upset the microbe balance in there?

For some reason my gut is sayin flush the hell out of it with some 6.5 pH water and turn the light down and wait a week.

As you said she may have just turned the corner in which case its totally your call.

Either way I would be cautious about transplanting another plant you have invested in without a good flush and a microbe recharge

Again, just my two cents
Yes thats a good point. I think at least a few days to recover after watering.

My head says chop and reset.

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Re: Living Soil Organic Grow 75L

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seymore_budz wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:54 pm
Yo, that's not lockout, that's hunger. They begging for food :lol: I've not read through the thread but I would say your soil ain't living atm and they're not getting the required nutrients. If they were locked out they would look deep green and have burnt tips. Turning the lights up is like putting your foot on the gas when the car is running on empty.

You may have to bite the bullet and give them some bottled food that is directly available. Even then you may not see an improvement now as they're quite a way into the flowering cycle.

Don't get disheartened, it's a learning process. Every grower out there has been through the same types of issues before they had success.
Yeah, they could need some N maybe. Do you have any liquid aminos from GHO - could be a quick way to boost N. Maybe also top dress with some MBP and alfalfa meal for a slow, gentle release over the next two weeks? GHO's beneficial anaerobic microbes may also help. As I said, I'm no expert, but that may help. I would definitely turn the lights down or raise them up though.
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MafooFarms wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:02 pm
Point taken. I only thought to flush based on all the stuff that was getting added to try and fix it. As an outsider its hard to know if too much was added and now the soil is too hot and microbes been shocked as well.

Thanks for the lesson on living soil
I would be against adding any bottled stuff anyway.

I do have a bottled organic nute but I think that'll ruin things more for the next run.
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sybarite wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:04 pm
seymore_budz wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:54 pm
Yo, that's not lockout, that's hunger. They begging for food :lol: I've not read through the thread but I would say your soil ain't living atm and they're not getting the required nutrients. If they were locked out they would look deep green and have burnt tips. Turning the lights up is like putting your foot on the gas when the car is running on empty.

You may have to bite the bullet and give them some bottled food that is directly available. Even then you may not see an improvement now as they're quite a way into the flowering cycle.

Don't get disheartened, it's a learning process. Every grower out there has been through the same types of issues before they had success.
Yeah, they could need some N maybe. Do you have any liquid aminos from GHO - could be a quick way to boost N. Maybe also top dress with some MBP and alfalfa meal for a slow, gentle release over the next two weeks? GHO's beneficial anaerobic microbes may also help. As I said, I'm no expert, but that may help. I would definitely turn the lights down or raise them up though.
Yeah I've tried all that mate.
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DIY.Rik wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:05 pm
MafooFarms wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:02 pm
Point taken. I only thought to flush based on all the stuff that was getting added to try and fix it. As an outsider its hard to know if too much was added and now the soil is too hot and microbes been shocked as well.

Thanks for the lesson on living soil
I would be against adding any bottled stuff anyway.

I do have a bottled organic nute but I think that'll ruin things more for the next run.
Yes, I think that could make things worse. Ionic is great in Coco and Canna soil, but in living soil it could mess up the balance.
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