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Humboldt seeds: what's going on?

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Hey guys! Please help me understand what to do (in particular, if spend a lot of money all at once or not).
I'm interested in some seeds (a LOT of seeds from several strains) from Humboldt, but seems at the moment "they don't accept orders" (states their website).
I made a wide search, found a dealer (Seedsman) who should have lots of the Humboldt's seeds I'm looking for. Maybe I should place a big order and buy them while they're available?
My problem is - if I want to pheno hunt my mothers (and seems Humboldt seeds are very stable and veeery reliable about pheno stability), then I have to buy 10-packs. I can't pheno hunt with 3 or 5 seeds (I'm ABSOLUTELY NOT that lucky...).
So the question is: do I have to spend something like 500€ in that seeds, or the Humboldt's seeds will be available again in the future?
Thank you & bless ya :thanks:
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Re: Humboldt seeds: what's going on?

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Rorschach wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:23 pm
Hey guys! Please help me understand what to do (in particular, if spend a lot of money all at once or not).
I'm interested in some seeds (a LOT of seeds from several strains) from Humboldt, but seems at the moment "they don't accept orders" (states their website).
I made a wide search, found a dealer (Seedsman) who should have lots of the Humboldt's seeds I'm looking for. Maybe I should place a big order and buy them while they're available?
My problem is - if I want to pheno hunt my mothers (and seems Humboldt seeds are very stable and veeery reliable about pheno stability), then I have to buy 10-packs. I can't pheno hunt with 3 or 5 seeds (I'm ABSOLUTELY NOT that lucky...).
So the question is: do I have to spend something like 500€ in that seeds, or the Humboldt's seeds will be available again in the future?
Thank you & bless ya :thanks:
HSO as we knew them are no longer around but they are back. You can find them under the Seedstockers range.
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Re: Humboldt seeds: what's going on?

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Aaaaand of course, I did it - this mornig I pulled the trigger on those seeds on the Seedsman website.
The particular strain is Blueberry Muffin Feminised Seeds - 10 pack. Not the latest strain they made (4 years ago more or less) but for what I see on the Tube, it's a very pheno-stable and reliable strain, with good yields too. I love blueberry, I had a 18 months love story with a Dutch Passion Blueberry mother (MOMC, "Mother of a Million Clones" even if I managed to make not more than a thousand clones from her this name seemed to be appropriate for her) while at the same time having a near perfect Northern Lights and and a dwarfy, absolutely perfect White Widow mother (Dutch Passion, all of them). The yield of the Blueberry was not extreme compared to the other strains, but it was my favourite weed: darker, sweet, fruity, with a decisive flavour and taste of blueberry (which I love)...
It was like 10 to 5 years ago, my rig (lamps and newer extractor excluded) is still the one I was using these days. I have a 200W blurple HGL led lamp too, my first LED lamp - disappointing at that time, totally useless these days (paid 500€ 5 years ago, now a €60 quantum board light from Amazon does a better job in terms of coverage and PPFD output). I still have the rail I used to move my old 600W HPS along the 2x1m flowering tent! And a LOT of Lybra pots (20 of them, more or less) used for flowering these clones: every 2 weeks I was making 20 cuttings to make clones, moving previous rooted clones from the propagator to 2 Lybra pots with soil, moving previously 2 Lybra pots with fully rooted clones to the left side of the flower tent moving all previous Lybra pots 2 places to the right, extracting the 2 ready-to-harvest pots from the very right of the array.
What stopped me was the total current amount used from a rig like that (1Kw only the lights, a 400W NiMH bulb for veg and a 600W HPS for flower, plus 2 extractors, 2dehumidifiers, 1 AC unit, various air and water pumps) and the disappointment for the LED light I bought (LED technology was promising, but not very effective - that 200W lamp is equivalent of a 250W HPS, in the best case).
My intention is to restart that rig now, with modern LED lights I can do "quite" the same job with half the wattage. I also have more scientific knowledge to refer to - PPFD and DLI charts, VPD charts, CO2 related temperature, light and nutrient boost charts... THIS IS THE WAY I LIKE, with NUMBERS - not "tries and errors", or "try and look what happens"!!! But genetics are evolved in these years, and it's very fascinating - what I see is that breeders have isolated a lot of different phenotypes (colours, hodors, tastes) trying to sublimate them in a stable form (making a recessive pheno being stabily dominant) and then mixing them again, to create THE hybrid they want.
In a context like this, talking about "indica" and "sativa" is nonsense to me: you can refer that classification to the original strains, the "landraces"; not to a cross of crosses of crosses of crosses who passed through DOZENS of pheno-hunt and strain cleaning!
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