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My Loft Build.
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My Loft Build.
Wassup GR420,
I've been a little preoccupied with a few bits including my house move which is finally happening in 2 weeks. This has meant I've had to stop all growing at my current place. There is however light at the end on the tunnel and this includes a big old loft. I do love designing grooms, kit and trying to come up with inventive ways to get away with our chosen hobby so I figured I'd do a loft build thread as I get the bits together and plan/build in what is effectively a blank canvas.
Ive decided against using tents. In a loft space every inch matters for plants and more importantly controlling environment. I've got a few things planned to help keep a very active but stealthy air flow throughout the loft while keeping it stealthy.
For now I've kicked off some clones so they are ready to go in 2-3 weeks. I'm hoping to have the loft build ready in 4 weeks.
These are rooting away in my aero cloner. 60x60 cm tent under a ISH 75v. I have taken clones off my mother's and the plants I want to grow next. Dinafem Critical will be the first run shortly followed by Wifi x Greasy Monkey from 2-Scoops. Ill also be building a separate pollen chucking chamber to pick up on something ive wanted to do for a long time.
Ive only had a brief nosey on the loft itself, i know there is a water tank which will give me water and should allow something to get rid of waste water through the overflow. Ill need to run electricity up there which is a good thing as ill be able to have sockets where i need them.
Apart from that its a plain old loft, will need complete insulation and made into a workable area. Its 5x7m so loads of potential to build a functional set of grooms.
Ive been ripping out all the insulation ive been using in my current place this week, no point going to waste.
I'll update as bits start to arrive and with my plans on how to use them. Any suggestions would be great along the way.
Im back
I've been a little preoccupied with a few bits including my house move which is finally happening in 2 weeks. This has meant I've had to stop all growing at my current place. There is however light at the end on the tunnel and this includes a big old loft. I do love designing grooms, kit and trying to come up with inventive ways to get away with our chosen hobby so I figured I'd do a loft build thread as I get the bits together and plan/build in what is effectively a blank canvas.
Ive decided against using tents. In a loft space every inch matters for plants and more importantly controlling environment. I've got a few things planned to help keep a very active but stealthy air flow throughout the loft while keeping it stealthy.
For now I've kicked off some clones so they are ready to go in 2-3 weeks. I'm hoping to have the loft build ready in 4 weeks.
These are rooting away in my aero cloner. 60x60 cm tent under a ISH 75v. I have taken clones off my mother's and the plants I want to grow next. Dinafem Critical will be the first run shortly followed by Wifi x Greasy Monkey from 2-Scoops. Ill also be building a separate pollen chucking chamber to pick up on something ive wanted to do for a long time.
Ive only had a brief nosey on the loft itself, i know there is a water tank which will give me water and should allow something to get rid of waste water through the overflow. Ill need to run electricity up there which is a good thing as ill be able to have sockets where i need them.
Apart from that its a plain old loft, will need complete insulation and made into a workable area. Its 5x7m so loads of potential to build a functional set of grooms.
Ive been ripping out all the insulation ive been using in my current place this week, no point going to waste.
I'll update as bits start to arrive and with my plans on how to use them. Any suggestions would be great along the way.
Im back
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Re: My Loft Build.
This was the only look i got while looking at the property without being obvious. The floor joists are 6x2 inch and interior walls are all brick to weight is not going so be a issue.
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Re: My Loft Build.
Wow that space has some amazing potential!
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with mate!
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with mate!
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Re: My Loft Build.
Hell to the mo frickin yeah ... love the space the possibility’s are endless , massively jelly right now buddy ... you have the best bit ahead .. do it right do it once
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Re: My Loft Build.
Nice one :-)
I got green eyes, I want my blank canvas too
Fair play @Keeno
Hope you enjoy.
I got green eyes, I want my blank canvas too
Fair play @Keeno
Hope you enjoy.
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Imho first thing id do is ditch that old insulation its most probably holding some kind of nastys,then next is build a room in there within a room line it with kingspan....... then make sure its sealed,sort out air exchange then fumigate it will then get a bottle of this just incase id will rid anything within the groom organic and don't harm the plants,spray the new room walls and all surfaces with the potion then ya should be good to boot but ffs leave the old insulation there imo
great googly moogly!
great googly moogly!
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Re: My Loft Build.
Looks like a really nice loft you got in the new place mate. Loads of potential for sure.
I'm kinda agreeing with Capt when it comes to the old insulation, toss it or just leave it be and get new one to the new groom that way you won't bring any nasties with you from the old groom.
I would also make sure it is insulated real good and and sealed so you don't get any air leaks in or out. In might be more important when it gets colder since the cold that might come in could potentially kill your existing grow or at least harm it.
Interested to see what you make of that space and looking forward to more updates on the new groom.
I'm kinda agreeing with Capt when it comes to the old insulation, toss it or just leave it be and get new one to the new groom that way you won't bring any nasties with you from the old groom.
I would also make sure it is insulated real good and and sealed so you don't get any air leaks in or out. In might be more important when it gets colder since the cold that might come in could potentially kill your existing grow or at least harm it.
Interested to see what you make of that space and looking forward to more updates on the new groom.
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Re: My Loft Build.
The flooring:
Ive been looking at cost effective ways to try soundproof without getting involved in the very expensive options out there and trying to scavenge what i can as well.
Illo start with what ill be doing on the floor of the loft itself. Noise travelling downwards isnt a major issue as ill be using quiet kit but what i dont want is vibrations or banging traveling through the floor to the adjoining lofts and given the location of the property its important i reduce the vibration as much as possible.
Full soundproof flooring option is well out of my budget for a hobby set up and tbh its well over the top given ill not be up there playing music or dancing around in a mankini. That being said i want to do it once and do it properly, if it does come on top it womnt be because i didnt think it out and plan it as good as i could without spending thousands.
Ive decided to go with what i can get or is cheap but try to imitate full soundproofing options as best i can. First and very important is a solid fix between 2 solid objects like wood or brick is a sound highway, vibrations and bangs will travel through solid joins very easily. For this reason im going to use a floating floor. The floor will not be screwed or fixed down.
Ill be using a thick carpet underlay over the entire floor. On top of this I will then lay 100mm earthwool (stuff is as good as rockwool without any of the nasty glass and itching). On top of the earthwool i will lay 18mm chipboard flooring. The weight of the chipboard will compress the earthwool, the underlay underneath will further cushion any vibrations or movement in the loft. If i fixed the boards with screws to the floor boards id effectively be negating all of the cushioning/soundproofing of the materials between the chipboard flooring and the floor joists.
Below are some links to the products im using for the floor, these are just easy to buy places where you can find them the UK, you will get better prices looking around and some of this stuff you can easily find being thrown away on building sites:
12mm underlay: https://www.onlinecarpets.co.uk/12mm-th ... 36EALw_wcB
100mm earthwool: https://www.diy.com/departments/knauf-e ... 146_BQ.prd
18mm chipboard flooring: https://www.diy.com/departments/chipboa ... 267_BQ.prd
Very important when laying a floating floor like this. If i want to use something to fix the underlay in place i would never use a screw, always staples or a tacking nail. The reason for this is a nail or staple can move in and out of wood under pressure, the sort of pressure/weight ill be eventually putting on the floor when i build the grooms themselves. A screw will not move. If as i add weight the floor compresses a mm the screw will protrude by a mm, meaning i have a high point on the joist itself which will cause issues later on.
Ive been looking at cost effective ways to try soundproof without getting involved in the very expensive options out there and trying to scavenge what i can as well.
Illo start with what ill be doing on the floor of the loft itself. Noise travelling downwards isnt a major issue as ill be using quiet kit but what i dont want is vibrations or banging traveling through the floor to the adjoining lofts and given the location of the property its important i reduce the vibration as much as possible.
Full soundproof flooring option is well out of my budget for a hobby set up and tbh its well over the top given ill not be up there playing music or dancing around in a mankini. That being said i want to do it once and do it properly, if it does come on top it womnt be because i didnt think it out and plan it as good as i could without spending thousands.
Ive decided to go with what i can get or is cheap but try to imitate full soundproofing options as best i can. First and very important is a solid fix between 2 solid objects like wood or brick is a sound highway, vibrations and bangs will travel through solid joins very easily. For this reason im going to use a floating floor. The floor will not be screwed or fixed down.
Ill be using a thick carpet underlay over the entire floor. On top of this I will then lay 100mm earthwool (stuff is as good as rockwool without any of the nasty glass and itching). On top of the earthwool i will lay 18mm chipboard flooring. The weight of the chipboard will compress the earthwool, the underlay underneath will further cushion any vibrations or movement in the loft. If i fixed the boards with screws to the floor boards id effectively be negating all of the cushioning/soundproofing of the materials between the chipboard flooring and the floor joists.
Below are some links to the products im using for the floor, these are just easy to buy places where you can find them the UK, you will get better prices looking around and some of this stuff you can easily find being thrown away on building sites:
12mm underlay: https://www.onlinecarpets.co.uk/12mm-th ... 36EALw_wcB
100mm earthwool: https://www.diy.com/departments/knauf-e ... 146_BQ.prd
18mm chipboard flooring: https://www.diy.com/departments/chipboa ... 267_BQ.prd
Very important when laying a floating floor like this. If i want to use something to fix the underlay in place i would never use a screw, always staples or a tacking nail. The reason for this is a nail or staple can move in and out of wood under pressure, the sort of pressure/weight ill be eventually putting on the floor when i build the grooms themselves. A screw will not move. If as i add weight the floor compresses a mm the screw will protrude by a mm, meaning i have a high point on the joist itself which will cause issues later on.
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Re: My Loft Build.
I can't wait to move house for this very reason!! :)
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